Hypothesis of Daniel 8

Hypothesis of Daniel chapter 8  (updated 2/9/09)

Here are the scripture.  Hypothesis is following

Daniel chapter 8 KJV

In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.

And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.

Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.

I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.

And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.

Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.

And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.

11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down.

12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.

17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.

18 Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.

19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

20 The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

21 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

22 Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.

27 And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.


Hypothesis:  Who is the ram? 

Daniel 8:20 says the ram are the kings of Media Persia.  I would like to submit that the ram represents the most powerful terrorist supporters and organizations based out of the ancient area of Media Persia during time of the end of the world.  Ancient Media Persia now makes up the current countries of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey and Iran.

Daniel 8:17,19  Gabriel also states these Media Persian kings will reign during the time of the end. So there is no way this event is talking about something that happened a long time ago.

Daniel 8:3 says the ram is standing before a river

Daniel 8:4 says the ram pushes toward the north, south and west, does whatever he wants and becomes great.

Daniel 8:5,6,7 says the ram is attacked by a powerful he goat from the west


Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran are among the countries that are now located in the area of ancient Media Persia 550 B.C. the time in which Daniel wrote the book of Daniel in the Bible.

We are now living in the end times spoken of in Daniel 8 by the angel Gabriel.

At the time of this writing the terrorist organizations located in Afghanistan, Iraq and other various places are now subdued due to pressure from the west and are having their own free elections..

At the time of this writing, Iran is being internationally discipline through United Nations Security Council sanctions.

Original Assumption

The United States will (attack) perform military strikes on Iran’s arsenals and nuclear facilities sometime before the end of President Bush’s term in office. Did not happen 1/20/09

Current Assumption (2/9/09)

Former President Bush has fulfilled the prophecy in Daniel chapter 8 by making a stand against terror during his term and pursuing what he felt was right in the eyes of God against all other countries.

Possible explanation:  Daniel 8:8 states when the he goat was “strong” his kingdom will be broken.  Upon research of the original Hebrew text on the word “strong” in Daniel 8:8 it was found that a meaning for the word is “to shut (eyes)”.  Using this original meaning could change Daniel 8:8 to read when the he-goat shuts his term in office his kingdom could be broken.  The rapture (broken) could be sometime after Bush closes his term on Jan. 20, 2009.

Who are the two horns on the ram?

The two horns on the ram are the two countries of Afghanistan and Iraq.

Daniel 8:3 says the two horns are high but the higher came up last.

Daniel 8:7 says the two horns on the rams are broken by the he goat


To date, Afghanistan and Iraq, the two horns on the ram, have been liberated and broken by United States military action.


The two horns are high but the higher came up last


Who is the he goat?

The United States, the most powerful country in the world during the term of George W. Bush which ended on Jan. 20, 2009.

Daniel 8:21 says the he goat is the king of Grecia

Daniel 8:17 says the king will reign during the time of the end

Daniel 8:5 says the he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth and will not touch the ground

Daniel 8:6 says the he goat runs into the ram with the fury of his power

Daniel 8:7 says the he goat, moved by anger, breaks the two horns on the ram.

Daniel 8:7 says the he goat renders the ram powerless to stand before him

Daniel 8:7 says no other country could stop the he goat

Daniel 8:8 says the he goat becomes very strong

Daniel 11:3 says the “mighty king”, (the same king  as the he goat talked about in Daniel 8,) “shall stand up”.

Daniel 8:8,22 says the horn on the he goat becomes broken

Daniel 8:8 says when the horn on the he goat is broken then four other horns come up for it toward the four winds of heaven.

Daniel 8:22 says four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation but not in his power

Daniel 8:23 says that this will be the latter time of these kingdoms and at this time sin will be rampant.


Grecia is the “cradle of western culture” and all the countries that adopted this way of life.  The United States is included in the countries that came out of the “cradle of western culture”.

The United States, (during the term of President George W. Bush) was “king” and more powerful than any other country that came out of the Grecian culture.

We are now living in the end times spoken of in Daniel 8 by the angel Gabriel.

The United States is located west of all countries on the face of the earth.  It was impossible to touch the ground when the United States took military action against the terrorist organizations, Afghanistan and Iraq because there was an ocean to cross.

The United States took military action against the terrorist organization Al-Qaeda immediately after the terrorist attack of September 11, 2001 on the twin towers in NYC, United States.  No other country could stop this.

The two horns on the ram, Afghanistan and Iraq have been liberated by United States military action.

The he goat becomes strong when his term is completed.  This is explained by the meaning of “strong” in the original Hebrew text.  The meaning, among other things, could be “to shut (eyes)” or “to shut tightly (eyes).


The United States will stand up (Daniel 11:3) by completing it’s agenda of stamping down terror and damaging terrorist supporters that pursue terror against the United States and elsewhere.

No other country or the United Nations Security Council where able to stop the United States from performing the military strikes on Iraq and Afghanistan.

After completing the damage of the terror organizations and their power, the term of President Bush in the United States will come to an end or be “shut” as the Hebrew word “strong” implies in Daniel 8:8..

There will be havoc in the United States when all children of God are taken away in the Rapture of the church described as “broken” in Daniel 8.

Four countries will step in to restore the economic stability of the United States after the Rapture of the church.  These four countries will be the most economically strongest countries in the world at that time, Britain, France, Germany and Italy.

The United States will be divided into four regions and each region will be administered by the four countries, Britain, France, Germany and Italy, through the United Nations Trusteeship Council.

The Rapture of the church will remove the Holy Spirit from the earth and will leave behind only those people without God in their life.  This will create an environment in which sin will prosper.


Who is the first king?

Former President of the United States, President George Bush

Daniel 8:17 says the king will reign during the time of the end

Daniel 8:5 says the he goat has a notable horn between his eyes

Daniel 8:21 says the great horn between his eyes is the first king

Daniel 8:22 says the great horn is broken


One of the Hebrew results for “first” ri’shown (Strong’s H7223) is “chief (in degree).  President Bush is the chief leader of the United States during the end times from the “Grecian civilization” that has attempted to conquer global terror.

We are now living in the end times spoken of in Daniel 8 by the angel Gabriel.

Since the “king of Grecia” is the United States and we are now living during the end times then Former President Bush was the great horn.

The former leader of the United States, President George Bush has taken an aggressive stance against terrorism.


This rapture can occur anytime after President Bush has left office and shut his term.  Either very quickly or after a while because the original Hebrew word for “strong” in Daniel 8:8 means either “to shut (eyes” or “to shut tightly (eyes).  This could mean that the United States will become “broken” by the rapture either right after Bush has left office or after Bush’s term has been more tightly shut, after months or years have gone by.